tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post777321339388193268..comments2023-09-29T10:04:33.858+01:00Comments on Roger Brook - the no dig gardener: A small trial in your garden proves very little!Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-91165208026000880772016-06-16T08:16:05.771+01:002016-06-16T08:16:05.771+01:00The best research is done by disinterested parties...The best research is done by disinterested partiesRoger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-32840405890474631112016-06-15T14:14:26.106+01:002016-06-15T14:14:26.106+01:00Great stuff Roger, as you would expect I agree who...Great stuff Roger, as you would expect I agree wholeheartedly with your views. There are so many variables influencing the growing of plants it is very difficult in many ways to be truly objective and I love Peter's comment about who is paying. I suppose one could say that the only time true results are obtained is when testing under laboratory conditions but these can only be taken as Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-24528812661656282752016-06-15T08:01:29.353+01:002016-06-15T08:01:29.353+01:00It looks very valuable as a resource for gardeners...It looks very valuable as a resource for gardeners - done by a professional disinterested botanic garden, trials repeated on other sites and done over a long period.<br />The RHS over here do valuable work of this kindRoger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-27885010146838722672016-06-14T18:54:47.389+01:002016-06-14T18:54:47.389+01:00Very good post. I wonder if you are familiar with ...Very good post. I wonder if you are familiar with the plant evaluations done by the Chicago Botanic Garden, and what you might think of them. http://www.chicagobotanic.org/research/ornamental_plant_research/plant_evaluationJasonhttp://gardeninacity.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-55964533144644925532016-06-13T05:34:35.381+01:002016-06-13T05:34:35.381+01:00You have given this a great deal of thought Donna ...You have given this a great deal of thought Donna - as you always do on your blog. Especially things novel or not clear cut - even controversial<br />I suspect we are on opposite sides of the native plant debate<br />My own view is that 'native' is a manmade concept and that other peoples's native plants have much to offer us - both to gardens and the wild.<br />That is not to argue Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-56603135357400221862016-06-12T20:08:45.345+01:002016-06-12T20:08:45.345+01:00You are so singing the same tune as I believe. Hom...You are so singing the same tune as I believe. Home gardens are the worst at this. Growing plants zones beyond their own and proclaiming success when they only have installed the plants for not even one full year. They misrepresent how and if the plant will live or perform as advertised. Science is like you mentioned too. Tests are designed for desired results often. Money funded for such Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-32876404527922897542016-06-10T17:45:03.475+01:002016-06-10T17:45:03.475+01:00Lots of thoughtful stuff Sue.
I think in teaching,...Lots of thoughtful stuff Sue.<br />I think in teaching, experiments - usually with a certain result known to the teacher - are very valuable.<br />So called trials in teaching are usually staged demonstrations - and perhaps no worse for that.Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-62566193791647505712016-06-10T09:57:19.199+01:002016-06-10T09:57:19.199+01:00It is very difficult to do what when teaching we ... It is very difficult to do what when teaching we called a fair test. There are so many different variables over which you have no control or which are very difficult to keep the samle. Then there is the variable that one person's patch of land is ivery different to that of another person. Also you don't have to travel far in your own garden for the ecology and microclimates to be Sue Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164518448098182276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-18184855675485892242016-06-10T09:08:04.162+01:002016-06-10T09:08:04.162+01:00At least with our veg Mark we can usually have a p...At least with our veg Mark we can usually have a plan b) or even c)!Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-7715670963924560902016-06-10T09:03:07.064+01:002016-06-10T09:03:07.064+01:00Never feel silly about what you do in the garden H...Never feel silly about what you do in the garden Helen!<br />I attended a wonderful lecture at the Castle Howard Yorkshire Arboretum (open to everyone) last night about tree pest and disease and heard how valuable citizen science was in reporting the spread of tree pest and disease.<br />Apparently there is a great deal of ash dieback this yearRoger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-61352838777228862322016-06-10T08:05:31.803+01:002016-06-10T08:05:31.803+01:00One's own practical experience can create one&...One's own practical experience can create one's own myths, of course. I used to work in an office where a standard light only turned on the first time I used it only after I'd tipped it sideways. It was several days later, after carefully tipping it each time I turned it on, that I realised it merely took several seconds to light up after being switched on and that tipping it had Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-76459918388337904502016-06-10T06:55:30.724+01:002016-06-10T06:55:30.724+01:00I'm glad you liked the "Cobra" beans...I'm glad you liked the "Cobra" beans, Roger. I have "trialled" (!) them many times and the results have been fairly consistent - but never exactly the same, since as you point out, there are so many variables. When growing plants on a small scale, I think a lot of luck is involved. I also agree that the internet is responsible for perpetuating (and often inventing) many Mark Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558305122821209520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-48767998420455687252016-06-10T04:22:40.600+01:002016-06-10T04:22:40.600+01:00Thank you for your nice comments Helene.
Although ...Thank you for your nice comments Helene.<br />Although I have been involved in education all my life and cannot resist 'passing on my knowledge' I am a great believer in self learning - especially with all that easily accessible information out there (shame some of it is wrong).<br />I think the best way to learn is to have a passion and follow itRoger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-70938136913045704572016-06-09T15:03:39.712+01:002016-06-09T15:03:39.712+01:00“Every year I try things different, I have had my ...“Every year I try things different, I have had my triumphs and disasters. I hope I will have many more, I bumble along.” <br /><br />Well, that’s how I would have described myself as a gardener – just trial and error, I have no formal gardening qualification and never taken a gardening course in my life so I wouldn’t dream of comparing myself to all those who actually have a horticultural HELENEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112289914239038835noreply@blogger.com