tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post8630753028540099290..comments2023-09-29T10:04:33.858+01:00Comments on Roger Brook - the no dig gardener: Is ‘Roundup’ quick?Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-40868403701198055122017-07-13T14:47:13.411+01:002017-07-13T14:47:13.411+01:00Thanks Roger, I can't tell you how much I appr...Thanks Roger, I can't tell you how much I appreciate that. Unfortunately, you are indicating Spring as the first opportunity to plant. I presume you mean because thats how long it will take to kill the couch, and not just because people typically start planting vegetables in Spring. I have polytunnels, so am equipped for growing in the middle of November if the stuff would be dead by then. I Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-48020781345680879932017-07-13T13:12:14.600+01:002017-07-13T13:12:14.600+01:00Damned spell checker- fuses is fescues!Damned spell checker- fuses is fescues!Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-338273793137269432017-07-13T13:10:20.968+01:002017-07-13T13:10:20.968+01:00If it gets a foot high very soon then your idea is...If it gets a foot high very soon then your idea is not silly and you will get a late spray in - wait as long as you can for the second spray - the bigger it gets the the better and as longs it is still green mid november is fine.<br />I have no experience of fusillade although I believe its value is its selective action where certain grasses intermingle with a crop and it is used as an overall Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-87851310742814752442017-07-13T11:15:37.174+01:002017-07-13T11:15:37.174+01:00Thanks Roger. I have seen the light and am going t...Thanks Roger. I have seen the light and am going to go with Roundup, although I am curious if you have used Fusilade for grasses and found it to be disappointing?<br /><br />I'm reading through your post, not difficult considering you have a humourous style. From what you have said, I know there are many variables that mean its impossible to know for individual cases how long success will Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-7859908396298794032017-07-13T07:36:27.533+01:002017-07-13T07:36:27.533+01:00No to fusillade, yes to roundup - well cheaper gly...No to fusillade, yes to roundup - well cheaper glyphosate<br />I don't understand all the effort for something that is essentially so simple and straight forward with hardly any labour input. All that is needed is patience<br />You will be very interested in my next post where I cleared Lyndi's quarter acre overgrown field and was planting bulbs within six months<br />(For later readers Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-48012537235085576142017-07-12T16:39:39.748+01:002017-07-12T16:39:39.748+01:00Thanks Roger, I really appreciate that. There is p...Thanks Roger, I really appreciate that. There is product that seems even more effective for scutch than Roundup called Fusillade Max..discussed here: http://forum.gardenexpress.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15965<br /><br />So I will likely go with that or Roundup. Would covering with large black silage tarps over winter be an aid or best left uncovered?<br /><br />Do you think there is any hopeBriannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-11387925038328928622017-07-12T16:20:08.078+01:002017-07-12T16:20:08.078+01:00Hi Brian
I suggest you postpone going organic and ...Hi Brian<br />I suggest you postpone going organic and use glyphosate!<br />i would be very surprised if your couch is not shooting up all over after your efforts to propagate it with your cultivations.(Although I have written elsewhere that in the old days repeated rotavation through its growing season will get rid of it.<br />Getting rid of it with roundup is a cinch as long as you let your Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-72126022498106937612017-07-12T10:17:11.608+01:002017-07-12T10:17:11.608+01:00Hi Roger, I hope you can offer me some advice..
I...Hi Roger, I hope you can offer me some advice..<br /><br />I have taken on close to a half acre of unkempt lawn to start a market garden, growing organically. As such, I did not heed the advice I was given regarding applying roundup to kill the masses of scutch, which the place is taken over with. I wish I had. No, nothing would do me only plough, manure and power harrow and magically hope the briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-78764493985876057192017-05-21T17:48:38.168+01:002017-05-21T17:48:38.168+01:00No don't dig them out
Some weeds will take lon...No don't dig them out<br />Some weeds will take longer to yellow than others,.<br />Depending on the weeds they may or may not have been killed at the roots.Some of my posts - such s mares tail -are about weeds that will take a few years to eliminate!<br />You are starting out on a learning curve! Best of luck in your new hobbyY Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-15527019246423506792017-05-21T17:09:58.863+01:002017-05-21T17:09:58.863+01:00Can anyone help? I'm a complete gardening novi...Can anyone help? I'm a complete gardening novice and have used roundup a week ago on a new garden that is covered in lots of different weeds. Some now look yellowy but some look the picture of health. <br />Do I still need to dig the weeds out right down to the root? Or is the point that you can leave the roots in after using roundup?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614113247842472622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-30530673454162462692017-04-03T16:15:56.941+01:002017-04-03T16:15:56.941+01:00Hi Kat
In my recent posts (click Cathi's grass...Hi Kat<br />In my recent posts (click Cathi's grass verge in the theme column) I have been suggesting repeated spraying until the weed is completely killed and then planting into undug soil. It might be you want to get rid of the dead matt of weed or to remove stones etc in which case dig.<br />As to the boundary I have always been lucky and have been able to spray out a clean fence line Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-3396642309437122392017-04-03T14:12:24.485+01:002017-04-03T14:12:24.485+01:00I just stumbled across this thread whilst trying t...I just stumbled across this thread whilst trying to work out what I do after I have sprayed the nettles/brambles with Roundup! When it dies do I need to dig or will it all literally disappear? I am in a newbuild which backs onto a field and I have a small border (about 3 foot above the rest of the garden) which eventually I would like to plant out (once the nettles and brambles are gone.) I have Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01195721070406200137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-50704789609021776132014-06-07T22:17:23.666+01:002014-06-07T22:17:23.666+01:00Your cats will be fine Nick even I if they eat the...Your cats will be fine Nick even I if they eat the grass!Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-81007394993852882302014-06-07T18:36:30.454+01:002014-06-07T18:36:30.454+01:00Roger today I received delivery of my gallop glyph...Roger today I received delivery of my gallop glyphosate and sprayer. I decided to purchase after a good read of the product on the internet. The reason for purchase is to help control weeds growing through my block paving. Also some naughty weeds along a fence line. I have given everything a spray and have been quite coy with my spraying. One thing is I have two cats, one 8weeks old. Should I tryAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17826405087111168405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-79809334461073951152014-05-12T12:10:51.568+01:002014-05-12T12:10:51.568+01:00Re reading my comments I think I have been a bit h...Re reading my comments I think I have been a bit hard on you Jason. When I am spraying my cemetery gardens many forest trees sprout suckers and I usually give them a squirt that keeps them somewhat suppressed. I did have a lot of suckers on Rhus cotinus and spraying them killed them in one go without harm to the tree.Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-761599954809197142014-05-12T12:02:20.071+01:002014-05-12T12:02:20.071+01:00I have no problem with repeated rotavation to cont...I have no problem with repeated rotavation to control couch Rick. I know before glyphosate it was a common method on allotments and elsewhere. As a no dig gardener I am not happy with rotavation's effect on soil structure but in relation to effective weed control repetition every few weeks IS effective after a few months. It was the once a year bit in the garden in Hartlepool that so Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-31485768714000679572014-05-12T11:37:26.934+01:002014-05-12T11:37:26.934+01:00Commercially one of the ways of controlling couch ...Commercially one of the ways of controlling couch grass before glyphosate was widely used was to chain harrow the ground after cultivation had brought a goodly proportion of the rhizomes to the surface. This had the effect of rolling them into a cylinder of vegetation which was later burnt at the field side. I know you are probably thinking that it was a bad idea to chop everything up but I do Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-49112332039383914272014-05-12T08:17:31.650+01:002014-05-12T08:17:31.650+01:00Oh dear Jason. I do not want to be rude, I am a gr...Oh dear Jason. I do not want to be rude, I am a great admirer of your blog and I know you have a lovely garden. I fully agree that we all will have weeds, it is just that some of us make harder work of them than others. I am completely with you about growing lots of potentially weed smothering plants.<br /><br />I am sorry but you might as well throw your Roundup away. You are using it completelyRoger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-68026179586754201652014-05-11T23:44:16.146+01:002014-05-11T23:44:16.146+01:00I use Roundup only sparingly, most often I weed by...I use Roundup only sparingly, most often I weed by hand. I try to keep the garden very thickly planted with a mix of bulbs, perennials, and annuals and that helps keep down the weeds. I also accept that my garden will never be weed free. Some really difficult weeds like bindweed I simply detatch the stems from the roots over a long period - eventually this exhausts the roots. I do use Roundup Jasonhttp://gardeninacity.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-54233428461519047882014-05-11T13:01:52.408+01:002014-05-11T13:01:52.408+01:00PS Pauline!
Now is the time when herbaceous plants...PS Pauline!<br />Now is the time when herbaceous plants are acutely sensitive to glyphosate. I only spray when there is no breath of wind and very close to sensitive plants I hand weed!Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-5267051538571068782014-05-11T12:28:09.843+01:002014-05-11T12:28:09.843+01:00Glad my advice is proving useful and your warnings...Glad my advice is proving useful and your warnings are very helpful to everyone. I tread a very fine line between helping gardeners to efficiently manage their gardens and damaging their plants. I have had my own disasters too that I will eventually post about! I have become very accurate over the years and have also learnt when I can cut corners! I take the view that tens of thousands of lovely Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-39043038597720718422014-05-11T12:08:09.393+01:002014-05-11T12:08:09.393+01:00I have been following your gyyphosate advice for a...I have been following your gyyphosate advice for about 6 months now partly on my son's garden where we have had great success starting in Winter on killing off grass for a gravel garden and a veg patch, although I can't convince the men that it is OK to plant through the dead turf - they want to dig or rotovate - a man thing perhaps. It is brilliant on dandelions and rosette plants but I Pauline Littlehttp://www.littlegarden.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-25628500442148333982014-05-08T14:26:00.024+01:002014-05-08T14:26:00.024+01:00I don't use paraquat Sue because I am not prep...I don't use paraquat Sue because I am not prepared to use the liquid professional concentrate which is deadly poisonous if taken orally. And of course it is unavailable to amateurs.<br />The amateur formulations are granules which are then diluted and in this way are safe.<br /><br />I prefer glyphosate because it is none toxic and does kill all the weeds, not just newly germinated seedlings Roger Brook - No Dig Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210160273591839142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2571100417242238211.post-21898364504513060232014-05-08T14:03:11.791+01:002014-05-08T14:03:11.791+01:00I certainly don't think your garden devalues y...I certainly don't think your garden devalues your property. I'd love a garden like yours. Isn't paraquat a bit deadly - it crops up in lots of crime dramas at least it use too until things became more sophisticated.Sue Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164518448098182276noreply@blogger.com